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<p>Well, as some may know, I&#8217;ve answered that numerous times online and off&#8230;.. and in general, the answer is simple&#8230;&#8230;. nothing&#8230;&#8230;..yet. <img title="wink" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/wink1.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <strong><em>Google Korea current has about a measley 1.6% of the search market here</em></strong> <img title="Eek" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" />&#8230; which is in direct contray to all the Google hype and domination worldwide&#8211;which puts them ranked 7th in terms of search engine usage here (last I checked). <img title="Sick" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new2/sick.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<blockquote><p>EDIT:  just checked&#8230;.google korea 0.73% of the market (according to RANKEY) as of this post.  <img title="Crazy" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/crazy.gif" border="0" alt="" /> (still ranked 7th). This is by no means &#8220;official&#8221; or absolutely accurate&#8230;but its still very illustrative. and even off by a 10th degree is still non-player. Naver by contrast has 66.74% of the market. <img title="Worship" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/worship.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p></blockquote>
<p>But in Google Korea&#8217;s defense, they haven&#8217;t really tried either (in this market). Some moves in the background cornering some AdSense syndication deals and web search feeds (empas, paran for example)&#8230;and some small/test efforts on the ground (signage in Apkujung and teh infamous Google Bus <img title="Rolleyes" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" /> ) &#8230;.. but nothing that one would call &#8220;serious&#8221; efforts by the 110 billion dollar giant.</p>
<p>Its pretty much been a &#8220;wait and watch&#8221; attitude as far as anyone can tell. I have been saying for..well&#8230;years now&#8230;.that Google WILL make a move and when they do&#8230;. do not expect them to remain at 1.6%&#8230;but that said, the window of opportunity like anywhere and in anything may be getting smaller.</p>
<p>Recent rumbling suggest some active movement on their part nowadays&#8230;. but as of yet its just that&#8230;rumblings. Most of the press is concentrated on their international success.</p>
<p>So&#8230;&#8230; for whatever reason&#8230;I figure its about time to put together my own little report (as I&#8217;ve been saying I&#8217;ll do for a years now) about what the current status of Google Korea&#8212;touched with my insights and comments along the way of course&#8230;.</p>
<p>if anything it will interesting to see what I get wrong and right as time goes on&#8230;.  <img title="smile11" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/icon26.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to make a series out of this (and take any questions along the way) &#8230;but for now, let&#8217;s start simple:</p>
<p><strong>A quick round of up current service offerings and comparison. </strong></p>
<p>as of this post&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>==================================<br />
<strong><span style="color: blue;"><span style="font-size: medium;">구글 코리아|GOOGLE KOREA</span></span></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://images.google.co.kr/intl/ko/options/" target="_blank">구글 코리아 서비스 / Google Korea Services</a></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>그룹  (Groups)</li>
<li>알리미  (G Alerts)</li>
<li>뉴스 (News)</li>
<li>웹 검색  (Web [page] Search)</li>
<li>대학검색  (University Search)</li>
<li>웹 검색 기능  (Web Search Features)</li>
<li>디렉토리 (Directory)</li>
<li>이미지 (Image)</li>
<li>블로그 검색  (Blog Search)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="color: seagreen;"><em>Total services: 9</em></span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Google 도구 (Google Tools)</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Blogger</li>
<li>번역 (Translation)</li>
<li>Picasa</li>
<li>툴바 (Tool Bar)</li>
<li>데스크톱 검색  (Desktop Search)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="color: seagreen;"><em>Total Tools:  5</em></span></strong></p>
<p>=========================</p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: red;">Google USA | 구글 (미국)</span></strong></span></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/index.html" target="_blank">Google Services |미국 구글 서비스</a></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Alerts</li>
<li>Maps</li>
<li>Answers</li>
<li>Mobile</li>
<li>Blog Search</li>
<li>News</li>
<li>Catalogs</li>
<li>Print</li>
<li>Directory</li>
<li>Scholar</li>
<li>Froogle</li>
<li>SMS</li>
<li>Groups</li>
<li>Special Searches</li>
<li>Images</li>
<li>University Search</li>
<li>Labs</li>
<li>Web Search</li>
<li>Local</li>
<li>Web Search Features</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em><span style="color: seagreen;">Total Services: 20</span></em></strong></p>
<p><strong>Google Tools|구글 도구</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Blogger</li>
<li>Picasa</li>
<li>Code</li>
<li>Talk</li>
<li>Desktop</li>
<li>Toolbar</li>
<li>Earth</li>
<li>Translate</li>
<li>Gmail</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="color: seagreen;"><em>Total Tools: 9</em></span></strong></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>well&#8230;.superficially we can see already see one major difference. Google Korea doesn&#8217;t have anywhere near the services offered in the US.</p>
<p>Interestingly, there are couple that seem MISSING from the Google Korea side&#8230;. like Gmail is available in Korean, Google sitemaps (which highlighted on their About page, but not seen anywhere else) and Google Earth has made a few headlines (with some Koreans raising a fuss that SEOUL was spelled wrong!! It was actually spelled &#8220;Soul&#8221; <img title="Rolleyes" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" /> ) but anyway&#8230;&#8230;.  I&#8217;m sure they have their reasons.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;..sounds like an open and shut case?<br />
Google just doesn&#8217;t have as many services here&#8230;THAT&#8217;S why they dont&#8217; do as well here! &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>NOT SO FAST&#8230;</strong><br />
(if only ANYthing were that simple&#8230;.)</p>
<p>let&#8217;s look closer&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>the problem is deeper than that&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>We can go on about Google&#8217;s site design and how that matches up with standard <a href="http://www.naestar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1654" target="_blank">Korean site design</a> (which I will later&#8230;.for now make your own conclusions. <img title="wink" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/wink1.gif" border="0" alt="" />)</p>
<p>but just looking at the services&#8230; the problem isn&#8217;t just Google Korea doesn&#8217;t &#8220;have as many&#8221; as Google USA&#8230;.</p>
<p>but the services that ARE translated to Korean/Korea services don&#8217;t &#8220;make the grade&#8221;, imo. At least for this Korean market, or at least not yet. Its not a 1-to-1 with US versions (and I haven&#8217;t even gotten into how they stack up again the local big guns, like Naver and Daum) Some of it has to do with the vastly differnt competitive environment here in Korea, some of it has to do with culture and some of it again, has to do with&#8230; just not really putting much effort into on the Google side of things (for the look of things)&#8230;..</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the services for Google Korea again with a little commentary:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.co.kr/intl/ko/options/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: green;">Google Korea Services</span></span></a><br />
<span style="color: blue;"><strong>그룹 | Google Groups</strong></span><br />
A quick dig through produced almost no group any content <em>actually in Korean </em> except, not surprisingly for the English (as in learn/study english category). Of which there wasn&#8217;t anywhere near the amount of groups or participation you would find at&#8230;say&#8230;.Daum cafe or cyworld.</p>
<p>Note: that &#8220;groups&#8221; is marked as &#8220;NEW!&#8221; on the G services page, but not on the actual homepage. Tough to know if that is on purpose or not. <img title="Crazy" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/crazy.gif" border="0" alt="" /> Did they promote this and I just miss it? maybe&#8230;. but whatever&#8230;&#8230; I dont&#8217; see this doing much without drastic changes to match the media rich and feature Korea equivalent cafes etc.</p>
<p><span style="color: blue;"><strong>뉴스 | News</strong></span>News&#8230; this I like. Hard to say whether that&#8217;s just me though caues I&#8217;m still partial a bit partial to US version that offers ATOM/RSS feeds. Every Korean portal has extensive and very good news search and reporting. And prettier.</p>
<p><span style="color: blue;"><strong>웹 검색 | Web [Page] Search</strong></span><br />
ok this section alone deserves an entire write up (which I will do later)&#8230;. I&#8217;ll just make a few points here.<br />
1. there is a difference between web page search and web site search in Korea.<br />
2. web page search is no where near the most popular kind of search in Korea&#8230;KNOWLEDGE SEARCH is (more on that later too). On Naver&#8217;s, web page results are 7 section down on the combined SERP. <img title="Rolleyes" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" /><br />
3. A comparison of like parts would probably put google Korea ahead&#8230; for whatever that&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p><span style="color: blue;"><strong>대학검색|University Seach </strong></span><br />
ok, to be honest, I don&#8217;t use this US side of things, so comparison is unfair.<br />
But as is, I test on a bunch Google Korea University searches&#8230;<br />
and NONE of the ones I did actually worked&#8230;at all. :/  <img title="Crazy" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/crazy.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <img title="Confused" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/confused1.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: blue;">디렉토리 | Directory</span></strong><br />
pretty much useless. dmoz who? what?<br />
nuff said.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: blue;">블로그 검색 |Blog search </span></strong><br />
A good notion&#8230;too bad the entire first page came up only with MSN spaces results&#8230;.<img title="Rolleyes" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" /> which almost NOBODY uses here.</p>
<p>Blogs are dominated by Naver and Daum and cyworld &#8211;if you wanna call that a kinda blog. None of which I found results for&#8230;.which is funny considering the subtext under blog search says &#8220;가장 좋아하는 주제로 블로그 검색&#8221; or &#8220;best (theme/subject) blog search&#8221; <img title="crazy" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy3.gif" border="0" alt="" />.  Took me to page three to find a yahoo korea blog.  <img title="w00t!" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/clap_w00t.gif" border="0" alt="" /> congrats!</p>
<p><span style="color: blue;"><strong>알리미 |Google Alerts</strong></span><br />
nice!!  but does anyone use it here?  I have no idea.   But I suspect I&#8217;m one of the few. <img title="Rolleyes" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <img title="wink" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/wink1.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <img title="Stick Out Tongue" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" /> I either missed the announcement/press on this &#8230; or it didn&#8217;t happen&#8211;which again, either means it didn&#8217;t &#8220;take&#8221; or Google Korea just ain&#8217;t trying (I suspect the latter on this one actually).</p>
<p><span style="color: blue;"><strong>이미지 / Image </strong></span><br />
ok this one is interesting.  We MIGHT be getting somewhere here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten feedback from an actual Korean who uses Google Korea&#8212;ahem, as her THIRD choice <img title="Stick Out Tongue" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" /> (which is GOOD for G here <img title="w00t!" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/clap_w00t.gif" border="0" alt="" /> )&#8212;and when I asked her what/why she uses G for&#8230;she said for &#8220;Image&#8221; search.  <img title="Biggrin1" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/biggrin1.gif" border="0" alt="" /> Catch?   She was a designer who needs photos and images&#8230;and google results are more International (thus better variety) and so she is less worried about copyrights.  lol <img title="Doh" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/doh.gif" border="0" alt="" /> plus easier to copy, cause some portals (like Naver) don&#8217;t let you copy images (disable the right click for everything in their image search) or have them watermarked as Naver as some is actually Naver property&#8230;</p>
<p>don&#8217;t know if that a good thing or not for Big G&#8230;but there you have it. <img title="Stick Out Tongue" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" />)</p>
<p><span style="color: blue;"><strong>웹 검색 기능 |Web Search Features</strong></span><br />
ie: Advanced Web Search<br />
This is basically what you see in the US&#8230;. pdf search, calculator, weather etc&#8230; Nice but well&#8230;.i barely remember to use this at Big G USA, much less here where its easier at the portals who have actual tabs or drop down menus devoted to such things.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: green;">Google 도구 (Google Tools)</span></strong></span><br />
<span style="color: blue;"><strong>Blogger and Picasa </strong></span><br />
&#8211;to be honest I had no idea that they korean versions of these.  <img title="Stick Out Tongue" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <img title="Blush2" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new2/blush2.gif" border="0" alt="" /> but that said, I can&#8217;t image Blogger has much use here&#8230;.picasa maybe&#8230;its a nice program and I don&#8217;t know/see much of similar in the market. Thing is&#8230;does anyone know about it?? <img title="Confused" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/confused1.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: blue;">번역|Translation </span></strong><br />
does anyone ever use this for anything but humorous respites? <img title="Rofl" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/rofl.gif" border="0" alt="" /> ) I haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: blue;">데스크톱 검색: Desktop Search </span></strong><br />
This made some hype, but NHN quickly made bigger hype&#8230;<br />
not my thing so not sure what the market decided&#8230;but if I were to bet I think we all where it would go&#8230;.. <img title="wink" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/wink1.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p>I posted an <a href="http://www.naestar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3205" target="_blank">article </a>too about how all the mid-size companies had gotten into this game and &#8220;out to out do google&#8221; with fancier features and better results. If this is just a port&#8230;which I bet it is&#8230;then Google better have a good story to come with why Koreans should be using theirs.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: blue;">툴바: Toolbar</span></strong><br />
see Desktop search.  <img title="Rolleyes" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/more/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p>==============</p>
<p>ok so NOT ONLY does Google Korea have far less services available here compared to Google USA&#8230;.. they most of them aren&#8217;t doing anything or fairly dead in the water.</p>
<p>AGAIN, disclaimer is&#8230;this could all be ground work for a big Google Korea push. They historically good bringing stuff together suddenly and excitingly&#8230;. but as is stands now&#8230;</p>
<p>these are just &#8220;translations&#8221; ports&#8230;. which, imo, just aren&#8217;t good enough make anykind of real impact in this market.  <img title="Naughty" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/new/naughty2.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <img title="Frown" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>
<p>ok ok &#8230;.let&#8217;s go on to the more fun stuff&#8230;..</p>
<p><strong>PART 2. HOW DOES GOOGLE COMPARE WITH KOREAN PORTALS???</strong><br />
(to be continued) <img title="wink" src="http://www.coreaconnection.com/forums/images/smilies/wink1.gif" border="0" alt="" /></p>


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