Google Korea introduces Q&A Search, Topic Search and Textcube Blogging

New services from Google Korea

New services from Google Korea

Ok, just noticed Google Korea (www.google.co.kr) updated its site and launched some new services that have been brewing for while in the Google Korea R&D center… (who knows if down the road if you see it elsewhere but for now it seems exclusive to the Korean market).

Namely:

  • Q&A search,
  • Topic search,
  • and its Korean blog service, Textcube (the “Blogger” of Korea which Google acquired not too long ago).

Not exactly sure WHEN they did… but that just goes to show you how different the Korean market is. READ: no one actually uses Google Korea much for search in Korea (Currently, Google Korea has about 2-3% of the search market share). Google Korea has been tweeking the front page for a while… even had animated icons for a while (recently removed for simple image icons). And they had blog search and dictionary search, youtube and others services on the front page to reflect the market, but this is first I’ve noticed they launched those services publicly.

Note: the previously ADDED drop-down menu to Google Korea.. is now.. gone again. lol.
Not surprising, considering just when Google ADDED it, market leader Naver REMOVED it from there search box (after years and years of having it). Seems google is still one-step behind on that front. heh. (Naver and Daum also increase their search box size over a year ago). *sigh*

Anyway.. here’s the quick rundown…

Q&A SEARCH

is basically a meta search of othere Q&A type search engines (think Yahoo Answers) sans the most important one: Naver (who blocks Google’s crawler and somewhat defeats the purpose considering Naver Q&A Knowledge search is the most dominant type of search in Korea).

aside:  DID YOU KNOW?   Yahoo Answers is basically just benchmarked off the Yahoo Korea serivce, which in turn is a copy of the Korean knowledge search pioneered by Naver.

Knowledge (Q&A/Answers) is prevalent generally the most common/default type of search as has been for near the last decade.

Google Korea Q&A search looks to basically be a like meta search engine for now, but it seems to imply that Google Answers 2.0 (ie: free) might make a come back at one point (pure speculation).

TOPIC SEARCH

is basically a trending topic aggregator. Hot topics from news and around the Korea blog and community web.

Search Hot Topics around Korea

Search Hot Topics around Korea


(Default Topic Search page)

TEXTCUBE (BLOG)

is blogging service acquired by Google Korea not too long ago. Its good to see its actually being implemented into its services… and I am looking forward to digging into the service now that’s integrated with Google officially.

I’ve used it pre-Google acquisition and actually like a lot better than almost ANY other blogging service found in “the West”. Basically the Wordpress of Korea. Of course, WordPress has the bagillion plugins and third-party stuff which makes it a killer blog service, but as an “out of the box” product… I’d take Textcube anyday. There is a large Textcube blogging community as is, but now with Google resources and integration, maybe we’ll see some more robust developer community support as well.

There are ton of bells-and-whistles that will give most users more than they have ever seen without delving into the third-party world.

Here’s the one I made in 20 seconds flat (including the post. heh) without activating any of the default widgets and plugins:
Richard Min’s KBlog

Made in 20 seconds

Made in 20 seconds

The timing for launch is right given the local exodus away from local blog services due to recently implemented government real-name restrictions .

ie:
1) Insane number of default features
2) slick graphics
3) Korea internet speeds
4) Google resources.
5) trend towards international hosted blog services

I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is just testing it here to eventually move outside the Korean walled-garden.

Bottomline:
It is FAR superior to Blogger in everyway I’ve seen (except social net connections which is expected from a Korean service and would be easy to implement later anyway.)

If it builds a nice set of third-party plugins it would attractive even in Western markets. But its solid as is. Wordpressers wouldn’t be disappointed.

Why no English version? (Korean only available). It wouldn’t take more than a few days to offer a few English version as well. Why NOT?

OVERALL:

Very good moves and new services from Google Korea!

Will it be enough for Google Korea search to gain traction or make a significant impact in the market? Probably not. Its pretty much going to more interesting for everyone OUTSIDE of Korea than in Korea.

You might just be looking at the future of services coming to you all soon(er or later).

@Richard Min
for InfoNet Digital

Kuroshio Sea, the 2nd largest aquarium in the world!

A video of Kuroshio Sea, the second-largest aquarium in the world has captivated my attention recently. The video was shot by Jon Rawlinson, a Canadian filmmaker and the soundtrack is set to Please Don’t Go by the band Barcelona. Watch the video in full screen mode for the best effect.

At first glance, it’s easy to see how stunning the video is. Being involved in digital marketing, I was as interested in other factors around the video.

    1. I’ve put Kuroshio Sea on my bucket list of places to go in my lifetime. That means I’ll have to pay a visit to Okinawa sometime.

I’m a huge salt water aquarium enthusiast and have visited several aquariums around the world. When I visit an aquarium, I am normally more interested in the smaller tanks featuring reef fish and corals than the main feature tank but Kuroshio Sea is downright amazing. The video even gave me the urge to inquire at the COEX aquarium about volunteering there. Some of our clients take a while to grasp the ROI of an Internet video but this is an example of one done right.

    2. I had never heard of the band Barcelona before this video but now I have the urge to check out some of their music.

The music matches the video perfectly. Immediately after watching the video, I did two things. Search for more information about Kuroshio Sea and then, I searched for more information about the band Barcelona. Turns out, they created a video response to the video and posted it on Youtube. Unsurprisingly, the Kuroshio Sea video led to an increase in interest of the band and an increase in sales on iTunes.

CHOICE vs PACKAGE

Pizza Choice Sets

Pizza Choice Sets

DISCLAIMER: all these statements are GENERALIZATIONS. Of course, there are always exceptions, to EVERYTHING….but the premise here is “in general”. There many many (even more so lately) counter examples and exceptions. That’s not the point. There are still deep underlying tendencies on BOTH sides of border, so to speak . And recognizing these generalities is the first step to understanding and appreciated when they do NOT apply to any situation.

Here’s the gist of it:

In the USA (and many “Western” cultures), its about given a “choice”…people get quite annoyed when told what to do and or not given a choice. Basically, people don’t like being told what to do or thing (at least not overtly). They like to have a choice in the matter.

Two basic things drive this:

  1. Part of the foundation of thought that is pounded into all aspects of America ideology is “freedom of choice”. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and Dec of Ind are the epitome of that ideal in writing and in teaching. Its so engrained into the pyschology that it takes leaving the country to really have it hit ya.
  2. Necessity: The US is relatively LARGE country, geo-graphically and population-wise and with tons of different peoples and cultures mixed together. Thus, its a PRACTICAL necessity for SUPPLIERS to have to offer choice to the receiver, simply because NO “one-size fits all”. This reaches far down into the pyschology and day to day (eg: its more polite to offer someone a choice of where to go eat, then to proclaim this is where you are going).Business is most salient example and obvious example of this…business compete in an open market where consumers have an overdose of choice. If you don’t match the consumers wants and desires…you’re done. The best way to do so sometimes…is to let the consumer choose for themselves.

    Lets take Pizza for example. The standard procedure is ordering a “cheeze pizza” as the base and then adding whatever topping you want individually. One doesn’t think twice about that.

    “I’ll have a large pie with mushrooms and sausage please” is sounds a normal as apple pie.

However, this is NOT the case for Korea and Koreans. Koreans love “pre-packaged” items and may even find it annoying (be impatient) with the continual need to have to actually choose what you want on a pizza or whathave you.

Why?

Same reasons…in reverse.

  1. Korea is a relatively SMALL country, geo-graphically and is HOMOGENOUS. Probably less than 5% of the residents in Korea are foreigners (non-korean).As such, in broad sense, Koreans’ have homogenous tastes. Thus, pre-packaging say pizza or whatever goods serves as a convenieces and a plus. For example, even for US franchises like PizzaHut, you order a pepperoni pizza… you might well be getting onions, peppers and meat anyway. lol. Some places still look at ya funny or get confused when you get all specific about what you want and DON’T want on it. Variety is more in the kinds of pizza (cheese crust or thin pizza) than it is in the toppings…which is way to much to have to bother with. Its Deluxe regular, or Deluxe thin (for example)….whatever comes on the “Deluxe” is a bit of a pot luck.

    Of course, this is just a loose example, but it IS illustrative. Koreans in Korea’s actions and mentality tend to be fairly uniform …broad socialogically speaking that is.

    It’s very apt to think of Korea as a VERY LARGE LOCAL market…or niche market if you prefer.

    2. Chaebols. Or Korean conglomerates. This is long story, but suffice it to Chaebols exist. Korean chaebols dominated and still dominate the market and drive the economy in Korea. And up until fairly recently, THEY determined “choice” of product. They produced it, Koreans bought it. Granted they inherenetly produced product that best fit Korean tastes and sensibilities, but the fact is… its not like Koreans had a line of other products to compare with.

Let me say clearly, most of the above is changing dramatically in very recently years due to:

1. The generation gap. Much of this just doesn’t apply to the Korean youth–weened on broadband and Prada.

2. Globalizatin and opening of the Korean market to foreign competiton

so in many very real and important ways, we are witnessing a very historic time for Korea and Koreans, imo….where old socialistic idealogy and new capitalistic ambitions and technologies and crashing head to head.

Should be interesting to see which way it goes.

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일반적이 생각으로 한국은 하나의 나라 하나의 민족이면서 대략 4800만명의
사람들중 90%(어린이들 제외) 를 맞출수 있기에 패키지가 가능하나 미국은 한 나라에 대략200민족 30만명의 사람의 성향을 맞추어야 함을 알아 주시기 바랍니다.

혹시 여러분은 피자 헛에 가 보셨나요?

우리 나라사람이 만약 미국의 피자헛에 가서 주문을 해야할 상황이 온다면
아마도 대부분의 사람들은 짜증이 나게 될것입니다..
왜냐면 미국의 피자헛은 피자에 들어가는 모든 야채나 고기에 대해서 선택을 해야 합니다..그 가지수가 많게는 10가지 이상을 나 스스로 선택을 해야만 완성된 피자를 먹을 수 있습니다…
근데 반대로 미국 사람이 한국의 피자헛에 오게 된다면 아마도 미국 사람이 한국의 피자헛에 주문을 했다면 미국 사람도 아마 짜증이 날것입니다.
이것은 제 경험담 인데요..제가 한국에 처음와서 피자헛에서 페페로니 피자를 시켰는데 아무것도 안 물어 봐서 그냥 이상하게 생각을 했지만 아 한국은 이런가 보다 라고 생각을 했습니다..
그리고 10분 정도 후에 피자를 받아 보고 으~~~~~~~~악 화가 나더군요..
왜냐면 페페로니 피자에 양파도 있고,옥수수도 있고 제가 빼야할 재료들이 그대로 들어 있었기 때문입니다..
이제는 한국에서 어느정도 살아서 시키지 전에 피자헛 주문 받는 분에게 이거 이거 빼 달라고 말을 하지만 대부분의 한국 사람들은 그냥 완성된 피자를 그냥 시키더 군요…이것은 미국과 한국의 단적인 문화 차이 입니다..
이 차이는 여행,치료,컴퓨터 선택등 모든 분야에서 적용이 됩니다.

한국과 미국의 문화 차이는 한국은 단일 민족이지만 미국은 여러 민족이 같이 살고 있기 때문에 패키지에 익숙할수 있지만, 미국은 여러 민족이 만족하면서 살아야 하기 때문에 어쩔수 없이 선택을 줄수 밖에 없습니다..
선택과 패키지 어느 것이 좋다고는 말할수 없습니다..이것은 비즈니스 입장에서 상당히 중요한 Point 입니다.

인터넷 세상에서의 차이를 보면..customization vs. personalization
싸이월드와 네이버 의 미니 홈피와 블러그를 보면 대부분의 그 속의 속한 내용들을 모두 다 주고 그 속에서 유저들이 사용하지 않을 것들을 선택을 하여 자신의 미니홈피를 사용하는 개념이라면 미국의 개인 홈페이지는 핀 페이지에서 자신이 사용하고 싶은 모듈을 붙여서 자신의 집을 만드는 것입니다.
간단히 설명을 하면 한국은 지어진 집에서 물건을 넣고 빼고 하는 식이라면
미국은 집이라는 터를 잡고 벽을 세우고 물건을 들여 놓는 형식이라고 하겠습니다. 이것은 대단히 특별한 문화이고 한국만의 독특한 인터넷 문화 입니다.
많은 해외의 유명한 기업들도 한국의 인터넷 문화에 적응을 못하고 give up ㅋㅋ 경우가 몇몇 있습니다. 반대로 한국의 인터넷 문화를 해외에 접목 시킬때도 한국 회사가 그 나라의 문화에 적응을 못하여 실패한 경우도 있습니다.
인터넷도 하나의 사회로 그 나라 인터넷 시장의 문화를 제도로 읽어야 만이
성공을 할수 있습니다.
무엇이 좋고 무엇이 나쁜지는 알수 없으나 한국의 사람들 그리고 인터넷 기업들 이 좀더 외국의 문화를 알면은 그 나라에서 좀더 편하게 생활을 하고 기업은 돈은 벌수 있을거라 생각을 하였습니다.

또한 역사적인 차이에서 올수도 있을것 같습니다..특히 한국과 같은 개발 도상국들은 재벌 들에 의해서 하나의 모델이 출시가 되고 거진 독점적인 상품을 사게 되고 이 것을 사게 되니 어쩌면 패키지에 익숙해 졌을수도 있으나 이것은 어느나라도 적게는 몇년전 혹은 몇백년전에는 한국과 같은 상황이 었을 것입니다. 하지만 발전이 더욱 된다면 우리나라도 몇년 혹은 몇십년 후에는 선택을 안하면 화가날 시기가 올수도 있습니다.아니면 영원히 안올지 모르줘..^^

Intro to Cyworld: Korea’s Social Network Powerhouse

Screenshot of Cyworld and Cyworld’s “mini-hompy”

Korea's largest social network

Korea's largest social network

“Do you cyworld?” or “Do you cy?” is actually a relatively common question to ask someone nowadays. That is how prevalent CYWORLD, the leader in the internet “mini-hompy” market, has become in Korea.

This is probably the rough akin to people saying “just google it” in the US which has become a common phrase in lieu of “search for it online”–hmmm…or even more equilavent to the 1998 equivalent question “do you have a web site?”. And that is very telling.

anyway…for background for those not plastered with cy-this and that everyday…..(you guys get “google this” or “google that” )

Cyworld is a Korean internet phenomenon.
Cyworld, is the largest most popular of the now-coined “mini-hompy” web site–with over over 13,000,000 unique active members, last I checked. This so called, “Mini-hompy” model is CHANGING THE NATURE of the internet landscape here in many ways (and SEARCH)…and has become a legimate and mainstream online marketing and PR channel: in the tune of hundreds of millions in very high margin revenue. . It has affected search industry to an extent as it completely outside of the search engines grasp….totally proprietary. yikes!!

And its very viral.

Cyworld parent co. is Nate.com, whose parent company is SK Telecom. So, simply: cyworld is an SK company. (this has interesting implications in the market…but that’s another story).
Its also doing insanely well with its recent launch in China as well (about 10,000 new signup a day).

<<< aside: WHAT THE HECK IS A MINI-HOMPY? I’ll explain more later…if you do a seach there are other threads on it.

Competition has heated up a lot in the mini-hompy market, with DAUM’s Planet being the next largest competitor, but cyworld remains dominant. however, in a counter move, Daum is trying to capture the US market first with its English ported version (via Lycos…which if you didn’t know is owned by Daum) also called “Planet” (under the AngelFire brand banner)

So if you want to know what the mini-hompy thing is about and don’t read korean or have a Korean resident number to sign up for a cyworld korea….the best way is to check out Daum’s Planet (US version). Note: the US version is not anywhere near as robust as cyworld or daum’s korean version of planet…yet….

but you’ll get the idea….
Lycos Planet

as a note: cyworld will launch stateside (with an unknown big partner) and things will get very interesting.

Or take a look at Cyworld (Korea) site itself:
www.cyworld.com
(but note the site is not the important part…the MINI-HOMPY is the meat and bones of it….)

thus, here is an example of an random example of a mini-hompy:
(no affiliation I just picked a random one with lots of crap..er….stuff all over it)

http://www.cyworld.com/godr79

yup…crazy ain’t it?


REVENUE MODEL
Cyworld makes most of its money through Dottori item sales (“acorn” items) which are basically things like skins, avatars, hats for your avatar, furniture for your cyber mini-room, etc etc. this is akin to Ultima RPG online game, for which items to use in the game (like swords) were so popular that you could buy them many of them on ebay. That is, cyber items became real goods and commodities. anway…

here’s a Screen shot of a page of items from its Cyworld shopping mall, where you go to buy your dottorri (acorns).

http://cyworld.nate.com/common/main.asp


BASIC FEATURES

a VERY basic run down of some of cyworld’s major features
(NOT by any means a complete list..just some off the top of my head):

the BIG ones it would NEED to make a significant move towards cyworld/mini-hompies here:

  • unlimited upload space for images with built-in autoresizing and editing tools.
  • a customizable and personalizable mini-room.
  • free music jukebox with a huge library of free, legal songs to play on your site.
  • purchasable acorn items. (avatar, skins, decorations).
  • fluid mobile integration.
  • mini-games (flash games)
  • easy “jump links” to friends’ sites back and forth.
  • system to easily add built-in modules (like a forum, diary, photo album, guest book, drawing board, mini-board and more.)

and like I said, that’s just the tip of the iceberg, but no way I could possibly list all the features…but still I’ll try to update or highlight a few of them down-the-road.

Technically speaking Cyworld isn’t anything that impresses a hard-core programmer, but slapping all of it together in the way that they did is no mean feat and would take insane amounts of coordination.

Here’s a great write up on cyworld from an “addicted users” perspective (and much easier to just post it then write it. . lazy bastid that I am. )

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‘I Was a Cyholic, a Cyworld Addict’
Citizen reporter Jennifer Park recounts her plunge into a realm of alter egos and big business &copy;2004

I was a cyholic, a Cyworld addict.

Each morning I woke up with blood shot eyes and a headache. That was nothing compared to more serious symptoms I eventually developed after being “on” Cyworld. I found myself turning into a serious exhibitionist and a stalker, a common symptom for cyholics. I will share my experience after “overdose” of Cyworld and what I have learned through the process of rehabilitation.

I used Cyworld to visit my friends’ mini home pages provided to all members. Having witnessed how addictive Cyworld was, I kept away from my own home page. When my friends tried to lure me into becoming a cyholic, I thought I could resist. I was wrong.

When I saw that the rise in number of visitors to my home page, I needed to do something to keep them coming. That number gave me an incentive to “open” my home.

My new home had a personal profile, diary, mini room, photo album, bulletin board and message board options. I didn’t need to pay “rent” but could simply “move in.” The mini room came with an empty room and a character figure called “mini me” representing the user. I could change its facial expression, body position, hair and its clothing. I used to spend hours playing with Barbie dolls during my childhood, and one would have thought I grew out of it. Wrong! Mini me was my new best friend.

I wasn’t the only one lost in this “Barbie business.” Through a unique system of “forming kinship,” which can be accomplished with two users’ consent, I met many members of the cyholic gang. The list of my kin kept expanding and the hidden pressure started to reveal itself. I felt obligated to visit my kin often to maintain “kinship.” Many of my so-called kin were people I barely knew.

This sort of phenomenon is common in online social networks. People tend to label those they do not know well as friends, perhaps for political reasons or to meet more friends through their so-called friends. I felt compelled to prolong the phony relationship because each user can find out whom out of your kin list did not visit you in the past month. Though this is intended to help people get along, it quickly becomes an unwelcome duty.


An example mini home page

Thus my addiction. For people living or studying abroad like myself, Cyworld is an alternative to international phone calls. With Cyworld, I did not miss out on life in Korea. It showed no clear-cut line between countries. Cyworld was just another living space and all Cyworld users had that common identity. I thought it was a cheap way to stay in touch with my friends.

Most of my friends had entered Cyworld before me and their mini rooms showed just that. They had tons of digital items such as fancy wallpapers, furniture, pets and more. Their number of visitors exceeded mine by far, triggering my ambition and jealousy.

As a cyholic, I unconsciously associated popularity with the number of visitors and believed that the number corresponded to how nice the mini room appeared. Decorating is a necessity in running Cyworld. My mini room only had a free wallpaper and mini me. I craved “acorns.”

All digital items are purchased with cyber money called acorns, the main source of Cyworld’s profit. One acorn, equivalent to 100 won (about 9 cents), can be paid via several methods, such as a credit card or cell phone account. Cyholics also go through the phase of being a shopaholic. I no longer daydreamed about a guy, but acorns and things to buy with them. Because Cyworld was clever enough to substitute money with a harmless object like an acorn, I rarely felt like I was being a spendthrift.

I was convinced that I was doing some good when giving someone a gift. In an interview with Chosun.com, the head of Cyworld division at SK Communications Lee Dong Hyeong stated, “The art of living is giving as much as you receive.”

This seems like an ideal way of maintaining kinship, but don’t forget that acorns are needed to make this possible. Cyworld displays the number of gifts received on each users’ front page to motivate them to exchange gifts. This relationship appears healthy and necessary, but it boils down to helping Cyworld’s bottom line.

A Cyworld “success” graph

Cyworld displays your popularity on your front page, fueling the addiction. The bar graph compels you to seek acorns night and day. Each bar is labeled “sexiness,” “fame,” “friendliness,” “karma” and “kindness.” Cyworld knows that Koreans tend to be ambitious and ostentatious. They use this knowledge to display the front page with a measurement of “success.”

Your “fame” increases each time you accumulate ten visitors. “Sexiness,” “friendliness,” “karma” and “kindness” go up when you give or receive gifts. Cyworld accumulates more visitors and acorns in this way.

Cyworld wasn’t always this successful. The reason it was able to beat other home page services was because Freechal, once the most popular home page company, took the bold step of deciding to charge their services. Cyworld used this chance and pledged to operate free of charge for life, prompting Freechal users like myself to jump ship.

When Cyworld introduced its mini home page service in 2001 it had one million members. Its members skyrocketed in late 2003 when Freechal started its fee-based system. Cyworld has 7 million users as of July 2004.

Ironically, people like myself who abandoned Freechal because of its fee unknowingly invest great sum of money in Cyworld. When I buy a frame cover said to last for 30 days at the cost of 20 acorns, I am investing 2,000 won ($1.72) and feel compelled to buy a new one when it expires. Recently Cyworld’s daily income ranged from 70 million won to 103 million won ($60,280-$88,780). This means that cyholics buy around one million acorns a day.


Cyworld’s main page

Cyworld’s success is recognized by all “.com” industries in Korea. Founder Lee Dong Hyeong sold his company to SK Communications because he lacked the necessary funds to operate his ballooning enterprise. SK Communications has since made a lot of money after incorporating Cyworld with Nate.com.

Nate.com was ranked third after SK merged the two corporations. Cyworld’s profit then increased by 60 percent and “Cyworld fever” is everywhere. Instead of asking for a phone number or e-mail address, people ask, “do you Cy?” SK Communications even made it possible to check mini home pages through cell phones, so people can take Cyworld with them everywhere they go.

Cyworld expanded its sphere of influence with a function called “people search,” allowing a user to find any Cyworld user by typing in their name, year of birth and gender or by entering an e-mail address. This allows people to contact someone they have lost touch with. According to one 29-year-old housewife in Seoul, this has been a useful tool to find friends she lost touch with after she married.

On the other hand, some people use this tool for stalking or to send unsolicited messages encouraging people to visit their page. And some employers take an advantage of this system to keep an eye on their employees. Many online network users should keep in mind that they may have to pay consequences for their freedom of expression.

Cyworld makes it easy to get addicted. A single click on the name of any Cyworld user will hook you into Cyworld for hours.


A diagram of “kinships”

I kept on committing the sin of saying “just one more” which turned out to be all night. It only takes a second to load someone else’s page, but the time consumed in posting and reading the message board and checking out the album is substantial. When you see someone familiar or attractive in that home page, you simply click and skip over to that other person’s home page and repeat the process.

After I became a true cyholic, I often visited my ex-boyfriend’s mini home. It started as mere curiosity and ended almost like stalking. Cyworld makes what is impossible in real life possible in cyber world. I live far from my ex-boyfriend and can’t invest the money and time required to hunt him down. So I simply “hired” Cyworld to do the spying for me. Peeking at his mood indicator, message, board, and album, I knew exactly what was going on in his life. The only thing that stopped me from stalking him was the messages that his friends left on his board congratulating him on finding a new girlfriend.

I found out how serious the Cyworld phenomenon was when I discovered it was taking over reality. A person my friend introduced to me was the owner of a page I recalled from my friend’s message board. Scary as it may sound, I knew exactly where the person was going to school and who he was friends with.

I felt like a stalker but couldn’t help but to ask, “You are friends with xxx, right?” What shocked me even more was his response. “You just graduated from xyz school in abc, right? I saw you in my friend yyy’s Cyworld.” We knew personal details about each other — though we’d never met.

There is no embarrassment in confessing to be a stalker because, ironically, people enjoy being stalked. According to one 29-year-old man, knowing that a woman he was interested in was visiting his home page, he shaped his image through Cyworld and won her love.

Cyworld was for me another realm, perhaps more real than the real world. What I got in return for making others happy were red eyes and a headache. I came to find that there is so much to enjoy in life when you say “no” to Cyworld.

I no longer rely on others to judge me by how I appear in the cyber world, because many of that’s not the “real me.” I still visit Cyworld and some friends still visit my Cyworld. I guess I am not fully rehabilitated, but I no longer depend on some corporation to run my life for me.

2004-07-26 15:44 article 2004 OhmyNews

English Use on Korean Websites

Rules about English on Korean web sites.

  1. First rule is easy……. DON’T USE ENGLISH!!!! (unless you are teaching English specifically).
  2. English should be used for DECORATIVE purposes only. But not as main content or for anything you expect people to read and comprehend. (they will either ignore it or not get it).
  3. Accepted standard “Konglish” words can be used–but only if there is NO korean replacement and one is VERY CONFIDENT (with empirical evidence) that is “commonly” (like more than 90%) used and understood by Korean netizens. For example: “피일” (file) or “로그인” (login).
  4. when in doubt….see rule 1.

now that’s not too difficult is it?

It’s not that koreans CANT read it… it’s more just that their eyes glaze over when they see a lot of English. Its just takes too much energy and too much like work for any but the most fluent in English in a society inundated with information, spam and flashy websites. And honestly, I can relate.

Exceptions:

  • of course, sites targeted to international audiences or English languange learning etc. BUT even these sites would be better off following the rules… they just get a LITTLE more slack. Have an English version and/or have a Korean version. Don’t be getting all “fusion” with it and think that makes you cool. All that does is make you less accessible.I’ve seen many many many english hakgwon sites (English language/foreign abraod school sites) make the mistake of thinking just cause they offer services for learning English or study in an English speakin country…. that their site goers have more aptitude or comprehension of English on their site/ad.

    THEY ARE WRONG. They site goers have more expectatoins or maybe tolerance of seeing English…. but they are no more accepting or taking it in as any other site.

    Example: I’ve done a bunch of marketing programs for international schools or sites that insisted on have an ad or whatever mostly (if not all) in English and thinking that was ok because of the nature of the service they were selling.

    Result….not good. In two different email campaigns I ran offering study in English speaking country, (the same type service for both)…one email was mostly in english and one mostly in Korean. The emails were basically identical otherwise….

    – English: click-through rate…..0.85%
    – Korean: click-through rate…..15%!!!!!

    to say that is a HUUUUUUUUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE difference would be an understatement.

    the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

  • Logos and CI (corporate image) related
    Company names are acceptable in English. This is NOT cause it makes your company look cooler (which is a reason many DO use) but simply because you need a enlish domain name.

    There is a LOT of controversy (or I should say I get into a lot arguments about this ) about what a name should sound like. That is, does it need to “sound” Korean or English (western)? does it need to be easy for Koreans to remember or PRONOUNCE? and or vice versa.

    Well, the answer is …..depends. its case-by-case. Different companies have different needs and markets. Obviously a site really only looking at the Korean market has differnent considerations than the one’s that also need an international presence. I can go into this at length…but for now… let’s leave it at “english is ok for a company name”.

  • Slogans.
    this is a case-by-case as well …and one should refer to the articles and my comments on this in the biz forums. That said, unless your are a big multi-national conglomerate… just stick with korean (for comprehension) AND English if you just want to be sexy. lol

The Geek fallacy.

ok… to illustrate a point I thought I’d explain a REAL argument I’ve had about 239840328 times with those I lovingly call “geeks” whether that means, programmers or just fairly well versed in English (English geek). But mostly with programmers, designers or other who are very involved with the Internet from a “professional” view.

The fallacy? They assume that most Korean netizens will can or will read and comprehend a lot more English than they actually do.

its a problem of “lowest common denominator”. That is, geeks are biased and waaay too far in the box to remember what people DONT know or do not what to see. That is, a lot of English. Programmers and designers are the equilavelent of internet English “power users”. They program in English, have software often in English, often have a higher level of education under them, and well just more familiar with English around the web. So they are invariably biased as to what the “normal netizen” sees or comprehends.

This is actually a very common problem in all levels of business—from marketing, engineering to politics etc etc etc. …but as such, it applies here as well.

When making a site that needs to have the MOST accessibility to the widest audience…. you need to reach the lowest common demoniator of the audience you are targeting. And in the case of teh Korean internet (or most Korean sites)…. that basically means. …..

NO…NONE…NADA…..ZIP for English.

For example, many of the younger netizens in korea (VERY VERY active online) are also the least studied in English (still studing it in school and well…. its gunna be more “Hello? How are you? I’m fine, thank you” than “download your file here!” )

students still hate homework and English is homework. you do the math there. lol

Also, older netizens are busy and get 98234792387489 things to read online or in email. Needing use 0.0000001% more brain power to proces English is not on things they would choose to do if at all avoidable. If they “don’t mind” and think its ok to see it in English… then they are a “geek” and their opinion doesn’t count. LOL jk (but you get the point).

The only English a lot of these people know is FROM THE INTERNET. and its the KOREANIZED “KONGLISH” VERSION (English converted to Korean characters phenotically)

Am I underestimating or overstating? MAAYYYYYYBEEE in the sense that its 100% true. But I bet its at least 90% true and that should be good enough. And if you’re website is about BUSINESS (not just a pesonal website were you wanna show off your English skillz)…. there is no logical reason to be cutting out that much of your audience.

Again, when in doubt……. use Korean or Koreanized English (Korean characters).
if you still have doubt…then ASK A 8year old (OR) find a random High School student *(NON technical study) if they know what a word means.

if they know..then you found a geek. move on and ask someone else.

it’ll be quite clear from that point on.

DISCLAIMER: I am in NO WAY saying Koreans are bad at English, can’t read English or stupid or whatever ridiculous implication or inference. This has nothing to do with ability or skill, just about the nature of a busy netizen (me included).

What’s best for Korean domains? .kr, .co.kr or .com?

Looking to make a Korean Website? Well, first things first..

what domain should I get for Korea? .kr, .com, or .co.kr?

In order:

1. .com
2. .co.kr
3. .kr

with the slight disclaimer:
.com and .co.kr are both about the same depending on some other factors relative to the business.

eg. .com is still most prevalent, but .co.kr is standard enough were from a biz marketing side… the different is nomincal.

from an SEO or other image factors, though .com good for all the reasons its good… it will crawl a better/faster if the host server is in korea. As foreign company looking to look more “korean” then .co.kr would be better in terms of raw first impression (its basically assumed that foreign companies do not use co.kr at all). I haven’t really done .co.kr’s from out of country servers, so can’t really say.

Would a .com need to be hosted in Korea for SEO purposes (for Naver and Daum)?

In that very narrow parameter of only looking at host country ccTLD assignment etc: Yes.

But in larger scope the total SEO sense for Korea given, its not quite as straight-forward.

Naver and Daum are completely different SEO beasts. But very broadly speaking, you will do better on Daum than Naver for pure SEO plays.

Naver has all the search and is very different approach and tough for SEO in the strict by-the-book sense. And last I tested… korea hosted sites did significantly better for even near same content. Others may say differently, but I would bet it more the case than not.

Daum is more like “US SEO” cause of its connections with Google (use google for its web results). But its search volume is a DISTANT second to Naver.

But for both:
* US/foreign hosted sites are have a speed performance drop. Japan might be ok, but for a site from a US server it is significant enough to effect usage.

but for REF: West Coast US servers will ping better better than East.

* its still true that web page search is very low in the ranks of combination SERPs of both. So how it actually gets exposed and for what percentage of searches by default is a major consideration for any pure SEO strategy.

* You need to register your site (or pay on an Ad block basis) with most portals here (yes, that is still done here). At least, you do if you are to get anywhere outside of the web page search area (which again, is very low in the ranks).

* Some companies may happy with Yahoo korea or google korea (and some) Daum optimization only… (like some are happy not worrying about Google optimization.

Some. But in the reverse… do well on Naver and you really don’t need to worry about others.

soo….
IF you did all the other SEO stuff needed to be done for Korean market. Then, “no” the server location issue can be minimized for Korean big two portal SEO (except for the performance issue).

But in an of itself: host in Korea.

For example, would a Korean language .com site hosted outside the country run into problems with the leading SEs?

Short answer: yes.

Longer answer:

Again, any ccTLD can lead, of course… theoretically. But what section? Web page results area? or say.. business site search results area?

Also, same rule applies that it depends on what keywords you are going for… if it a targeted keyword category, and if you’ve registered your site with the portals.

Basic Web Design Tips for the Korean Market

Here’s a quick rap sheet for

WEB DESIGN FOR THE KOREAN MARKET

(aesthetically speaking):

Benchmarks:

Portal/search: use www.NAVER.com as you benchmark. Not Daum.
Community site: www.cyworld.com (and you must look at the pop-up “mini-hompies”–that’s the meat of it).
Commercial: www.cokeplay.com
Ecommerce: www.Gmarket.com
if you need other examples, you have to give me a specific area.

  • Pastel colors, media rich, loud, flashy, lots of flash ok (esp. for menus and stuff like that)…ie: Let your designer go wild.
  • and when in doubt…opt for “CUTE” style rather than “cool” (and don’t be afraid of cutsy characeters either.
  • busy is fine…but its gotta very “CLEAN”! … like lots of CSS and very well layed out.
  • Image IS important here….and a poorly designed website (ie: in terms of LOOK) can be taken as 1to1 to your ability and competence. Sure there are examples to the contrary…but generally speaking.
  • most common screen resolution: 1024×768
  • don’t worry about Firefox. no really. just forget it. I had 0% (ZERO) of my visitors (at 50,000 unique/day) using FF.
  • its ok to use ENGLISH a lot of english to COMPLEMENT your korean. it makes you look cool and “international”.
  • all the above is given somewhat more latititude if you are an “obviously US/foreign” company. Depends on the product though. Luxury items, or small items or company site etc…all have differnt levels of tolerance to styling and “english” focus.
  • Follow SEO principles as that’s just good practice…but don’t fret over it….at all. 99.9% of the cases, you can’t break into this market on SEO. Google only has 0.57% (as of Nov 20) of the search market here…and that’s about the only place SEO really gunna work for you.
  • be prepared to SPEND (registration fees, ad spend, etc) or else don’t expect anything from this market. No way around it for this market, unless you are here on the ground doing guerilla marketing.
  • KOR language encoding and EUC-KR charset is best. UTF-8 won’t cut it.
    for information on META TAGS here: What meta tags to use for Korean sites?
  • do some searches on the Korean market on this forum. I’ve written plenty about what to do/what’s up with the Korean market.
  • Koreans are used to the internet at blazing speeds. Make sure you host is kick@ss or get one closer (or IN) korea (asia).
  • definitely check out babelfish for a good laugh^^…but that’s about it. Its translations for Korean are so bad that I don’t even think you get the right idea from it.

Feel free to post more questions about the Korean market if you have em…but I don’t come around here conisistently so you you can pm for my email if you need more immediate help.

Good luck!

PS.  Note:
setting your browser encoding to KOREAN, but having a site in English (ISO) works fine. but it may be hard to KEEP your browser in Korean as most will keep switching back to english encoding with each new page or refresh (as many browsers are set to “automatic” detecting language).

Also, avoid auto geo-location for your site.  That’s what “country” selection menus are for.  Make it accessible and self-explanatory and there will be no issue.  Plus, this is standard practice in Korea.  People are very used to the massive effort of choosing their location.  Poorly implemented geo-location ends up with users that get “stuck” in countries they don’t necessarily want to be viewing.

Cyworld App store coming soon

Nate Dev Square for Cyworld

Cyworld held a conference today for App store developers. For those of you not familiar with Cyworld, it’s the largest social networking site in Korea with over 24 million unique users. While most sites have trouble accurately identifying unique users, Cyworld doesn’t have this problem since users much input their real name and Korean identification number to register. There are also 27 million NateOn (instant messenger) users.

Cyworld is inviting third party application developers to write apps that can run on its service. These apps will be listed on the Cyworld app store. Currently, all apps will have to be freely distributed but developers can still monetize their apps by selling virtual items. Cyworld uses a virtual currency called dotori, or acorns and has been one of the most successful services in the World in monetizing social networking traffic.

Developers will share revenue with Cyworld 70/30, with 70% of the revenue going to app developers. There are a number of companies doing an enormous amount of revenue on Facebook and the same should hold true for Cyworld. While Cyworld doesn’t have the mass amount of users Facebook does, Cyworld users are more used to paying for dotori to decorate their page.

A number of companies in Korea have also found success creating free games and realizing revenues by selling virtual items within their games. This is a business model that has proved quite lucrative in Korea.

It will be interesting to see the Cyworld app store launch and it won’t be long before we hear a number of success stories.